You know who could have given David Cassidy a run for his money on those Partridge Family hits? Ron Dante. Look and listen.
What can I say? That "He alone was responsible for 7 chart topping Partridge Family singles." comment really riled me.
Wednesday, January 27, 2010
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You know that's the first time I've ever seen a face for that voice. We always had a cartoon on Top of the Pops and the Archies were said to be session singers. I loved this song as a child, lovely vocal, quite honey like.
Please tell me more about 'The Hell' article. (Still can't get it to work). Who wrote it and in what context? Surely that's libellous and those who wrote/produced the PF songs would have taken offence and issued a writ or something. Was it written in a well known magazine or just some obscure internet article? Can't believe he knew of it, or was it supposed to be a direct quote from David?
Sorry I'm very curious.
Can you read the comments in that "The Hell?!" blog post? I explained it to you in the comments.
Oh right, you've quoted everything. I'm so demanding LOL! I can't believe the statements came from David, not even his ego is that inflated. He wasn't proud enough of the material to want to take full credit for it.
I sincerely hope his 'people' aren't filling his head with this kind of rubbish, wont do him any favours.
Anyway here's to bubble pop. I like a lot of it! There's room for all sorts of music in my collection.
I just read the PR piece on Penn's Peak. What songs did the Grammy nominations come from?
I was on the Grammy's web site and the only thing they had connected with David and the Grammy's was when him and Shirley presented an award to the Carpenters.
Love the Archies by the way!
Such a great song! Nice way to end the afternoon---thanks!
I wonder...all other things being equal, if it had been Bobby Sherman instead of David, would those songs have been as successful? What about Davy Jones - I used to be a Monkees fan and thought he was the cutest darned thing! LOL! Ya'all probably know he lives in Florida too on a horse farm.
Loved this song then and now. Thanks DD!
Anonymous: The Partridge Family was nominated for a Grammy in 1971 as Best New Artist. The Carpenters won.
I find it interesting that the Partridge Family was nominated since it wasn't a real group.
Well, the Archie's were not a real group.
David want to take credit for that?
He complain during that time period how he didn't have control over his image.
Maybe he still doesn't?
Thanks for the info.
Not a "real group", Anonymous? I doubt ghosts write and play the music. They're session performers who may get credit for the music (as in the case of the PF) or not (The Archies) - doesn't make the groups any less real. They just aren't marketed to the public the same way traditional bands are. Happy, feel-good music that transcends generations and is still enjoyed forty years later - where's the shame in that? People should be proud to take credit for it.
Ron Dante is a serious cutie. He looks so vulnerable. I'm not sure he's nearly as good a singer as David though.
I hope this doesn't get me zapped by electrons for saying this here: Do you think Donny Osmond (if he was older), or even Bobby Sherman could have accomplished pretty much the same thing as David did given the same opportunities? I don't think their voices are as seductive as David's, but I still like them a lot. And they were good live too.
Dante's voice might not be as distinctive as DC's and he might not be as pretty as DC but I think he could have done a very respectable job with The PF material and taken it up the charts as well.
As for Donny Osmond, his teen idol reign lasted longer than Cassidy's. They both have oodles of talent, legions of loyal fans and are both still performing. Could he have been the PF voice? why not?
Sherman was before my time but I do remember his blue eyes stealing the scene every time he was on in that PF episode. The few songs I've heard of his haven't stuck in my brain and I don't remember being wowed by his voice.
DD,
My comment about 'taking credit' was more directed to 'David' complaining during this time period that he had no control over his image.
There were People telling him what to sing.
I know that David said he didn't like the was they sped up his voice on the record to make him sound youger.
I like the Partridge Family music.
Studio musicians that drop in and out of sessions to me don't constitute a group.
Who would have the Grammy if they won?
THose are the reasons I thought it was strange that 'The Partridge Family' was named best new artist.
I love "Sugar, Sugar" by the Archies too.
IT is the theme song for the TLC series CAKE BOSS.
Donny Osmond could not have been Keith Partridge, no way. I'll leave aside the looks issue (I never thought he was cute) and talk about his voice---the way he sings is cloying, white-bread, major-key vibrato all the way. He couldn't sing a "blue note" if he tried...not that DC is so bluesy, but he at least understands the concept---"Warm My Soul" is a good example. Donny also doesn't modulate his voice very much---no breathy vocals from him, it's all full-on, clear-as-a-bell pitches, which is great for choir music, but not for PF songs. Sorry, that's my take on Donny Osmond. I admit bias. I never liked him, but I have my musical reasons as well.
Thanks SLK, for explaining all that! Yes, I see what you're saying about DO's voice, but many loved him. In the beginning when his popularity was launched, I thought David's singing was more clear-as-a-bell pitches. So I don't see why it couldn't have just as easily been Donny. Of course I agree with you that David's singing is much more enjoyable.
Anonymous, sorry, but I'm still not getting the point you're trying to make about David taking/not taking credit for the music.
As for who would have won the Grammy for the PF, I think the logical choice for representation would have been Wes Farrell, David and perhaps Shirley. Wes Farrell set up the group and oversaw the whole production, from song choice to musical arrangements. His company owned the name and David's likeness. David and Shirley were credited on the album covers - "Starring SJ and featuring DC" - David was more the real face and sound of the group though. As for the musicians, it was pretty much always the same ones on every track and every album - the group was known in the industry as The Wrecking Crew. It was common practice back then to have session musicians on albums. The PF background singers were the same as well.
If the question of who'd show up on the stage to pick up the statuette was a deterrent to voting for the group, the industry shouldn't have nominated it.
Thanks for your input about Donny's voice, SLK.
I understand that the Partridge Family was a studio creation.
The studio people worked on other albums including the Monkees.
My question was about control.
In the group Van Halen, the brothers have control and they are not the lead singers.
I am asking just because I am curious and people here know more than me.
The category of best new artist indicates to me that the awards should go to the one in charge of creating.
I think if they gave it to a Partridge song, I would feel differently.
I remember that Milli Vanilli got their best new artist Grammy revoked becuase the studio was using Rob and Fab for the image and then they would lip sync to other singers.
Anonymous (or should I call you cat, cao or coconnoc?), you're losing me again. If your question is who controlled the PF, the answer is Wes Farrell.
I want to be respectful to you in my responses because your comments aren't rude per se and you've made valid points - as exasperating as they were to figure out - but I can't help thinking that you have an agenda against David. Seriously, what gives?
David Lee Roth thought that he was Van Halen when he was that Lead singer. What has happened to him then? The brothers picked another lead singer. The Partidge Family could have done the same thing.
the point is what makes a group or an artist?
Why give the credit to a lead singer?
And out of left field it comes. All I can reply to you, Anonymous, is: Huh?
Main point, I am trying to make is that by today's standards. That Nomination for 'best new artist' for a Grammy would not have been given to 'the Partridge Family'.
David Cassidy had a machine behind him.
I don't think anybody believes that he alone made those songs hits.
Well, The Partridge Family was forty years ago - a bit pointless to discuss them according to "today's standards".
You're right: no one believes that DC was solely responsible for those songs being hits. (All these comments to say that you agree with me?) It's a false claim to make and that's why I think it's a SHAME that anyone thought it appropriate to write it in a short bio to publicize his concert - it's a boast that discredits him.
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