Saturday, February 27, 2010

He's So Vain? Well, yeah, but is the song about him?

Carly Simon's big hit with the infamous ironic lyric "You're So Vain" is about a David. The latest consensus seems to be David Geffen but I think that David Cassidy should still be in the running for one reason: in an episode of "Ruby & the Rockits", Ruby comments on David Gallagher's less than impressive stage outfit and he protests by saying that Carly Simon went nuts over that outfit back in the day. There were a lot of "in-jokes" on that show and I wouldn't be surprised if that was one of them.

Lyrics to Ms Simon's song here. Read various interview segments with her dribbling hints through the years as to who's so vain on her own website.

18 comments:

MaeB said...

Daydreaming, the link to the lyrics doesn't work, at least not when I try.

British fan said...

I thinks she's just 'playing' with everyone and likes to keep the myth going. I always thought it was Warren Beatty. It's tantalising as she mentions 'horses' and 'Saratoga' but David hadn't got into the racing business yet (at 22 he was just studying it in his spare time) so I think it was someone else.

Daydreaming David said...

Thanks for letting me know, MaeB! Changed the link.

The other clue that throws me off, British fan, is that she says he's connected to the underworld.

UK Fan said...

We know he's big in the underworld ... eh Donk !

Great memory DD about him mentioning Carly in R&R but even though he fits with the song lyrics and he confessed to liking the older woman, I think it's David Geffen ... although nobody has added Davy Jones in the mixing pot as he was and still is into horses (if you know what I mean..lol). She also released another song in 1994 on her 'Letters never sent' album called 'Davy', ha ha.

Daydreaming David said...

Wow, UK Fan, Davy Jones! Wonder why no one had thought of him. Is he vain? He can't be vain today, showing off his manboobs in concert!

British fan said...

I'm not so interested in David's vanity and this song but I would like some hard evidence of the fabled Donk. Don't be so coy David give us the long and the short of it.

Daydreaming David said...

British fan, really? Take a minute or two to view some pictorial evidence in my earlier posts ;-)

British fan said...

I was after some stronger evidence but I'll go take a look, I've seen the yellow satin trousers!

British fan said...

I think my mind is in the gutter more than the average blog reader, unveiled was more what I had in mind.

British fan said...

To be a little serious for a moment, seeing DC 'happy' is not evidence of a larger than average appendage, most men can get the same 'look' when they're 'happy' too. That's what I meant by my cheeky demand of harder evidence. After all he's the one who keeps saying it!

Barbara - Just David said...

When she revealed recently that it was someone maned David, I thought Geffen right away. He was making his rounds to all the female singers - Cher being the most notable. Cassidy never entered my mind due to what was going on with him at the time was no where near Carly's circle.
Some said Bowie and that was more probable than Cassidy. Cassidy wearing a ascot?? No way.

Before that I thought it was Beatty.

Daydreaming David said...

Barbara, that's the thing about the timing: we don't know. The song says years ago when I was naive. Also, the lyrics are "apricot scarf". Mind you, I doubt DC was wearing scarves before the mid-seventies when they became popular.

Daydreaming David said...

British fan, your 1:42 comment makes me smile. If that were true that most men could get the same look when they're "happy", the average wouldn't be six inches ;-) And I hope that's the last of me on that subject!

Barbara - Just David said...

I think if there was anything with Carly, it would have been in his book, because he did not hold back on others he had flings with. Honestly, Cassidy was never one of the ones I thought for this song. I know many of his fans want to, but for me I immediately thought Beatty when the song came out. And when she revealed the name David, Geffen was who I thought of. He was a record producer who could lure anyone who wanted to get a deal with his label.

http://www.suntimes.com/entertainment/music/2071942,carly-simon-so-vain-david-geffen-022610.article

Barbara - Just David said...

But honestly, I think it's a little ridiculous already. She should just say who the frig it is. It's gone on too long.

Daydreaming David said...

I remember being so annoyed by the song as a kid - the lyrics drove me up the wall. If the song isn't about a "certain someone" then you can't address that person in the song, now can you? I kept thinking the joke was on the songwriter.

In any case, thirty eight years later, no one really cares who she thought was so vain. Who isn't vain in show business?

singmedavid said...

British Fan, now you are tempting me! What about those Grove concert photos from a couple years ago? There are a couple compelling shots in particular that come to mind. ;-)

There a few PF scenes of him I have come across, and one on your blog, DD, all of which I cannot locate right now. If I could only locate them, I think any of these would provide you with the "hard" evidence you're looking for, BF. LOL! My eyes were bugging out of my head when I saw those. What a gorgeous and delightful sight!!!!!!!!!!!! :-)

Unknown said...

Warren Beatty had a horse at that time the only one of her lovers that ever did also his horse was in Saratoga and he always wore ascots I heard from an editor in Hollywood she did not want to say it was it him for two reasons because he was vain and because she thought he might sue her so true you go .